Hey all, So I'm a master of MPEG-4, but don't know a whole lot about squeezing max quality out of an MPEG-2 encoder like CCE. I have some PAL stuff that has to fit on a DVD5 - about 2 hours and 5 minutes, which with a 192kbit AC3 works out to an average bitrate of ~4600kbit. This is a bit on the low side, and I have noticed in an unfiltered (aside from NTSC->PAL conversion) encoder that a lot of detail is lost when compared to an NTSC encode at ~8000kbit. Now, obviously there's a huge difference in bitrate, and I don't expect them to look the same, but I would like to squeeze as much quality out of it as I can. I added fft3dfilter(sigma=2, plane=4) to the script, and removegrain(mode=5), and that gave me a handy 15-20% compressibility boost (at least with an xvid comptest). I am wondering how to tweak CCE for lower bitrates, and hope that you gurus out there can offer me some insight. The material is high motion with a mostly fixed background, it's a long exercise video of people on an exercise bicycle - from 3 angles with the occasional flying shot on a jib, so for the most part I would call it low motion. Perhaps a good CQM? ~MiSfit